welllllllll never let it be said that when im wrong about something i wont admit it ...seems i was wrong about something...this is going to be a lengthy post to clarify some serious issues on DISENFECTANTS
since there has been recently some talk about how to disenfect our cages and what is safe and not i couldnt rest and my mind was bugging me something awful about all of this.
so, i have been up here for hours and hours doing some online research about all of this and found out some very interesting an surprising info...seeing how id like to clear up this issue for all of us this is what ive found.
first of all there is NO disenfecting hand wipes SAFE for our birds NONE....
secondly inspite of some very popular belief VINEGAR is at best only a mild disenfectant and does NOTHING to prevent any of the bird bacterial diseases our friends may come in contact with...in fact according to someones husband who is a microbiologist reported that while it may be a MILD disenfect to SOME things it in fact also is one of those that also ...hold onto your hats now...will INCREASE some bacteria and mold because of the acid in it.
third...ANY of the household products that you would normally think of as being a disenfectant and bacteria destroyer is NOT safe for our birds...no matter how you use it...
i found only two things that has supposedly been affective to kill exoctic avian bird bacterias....and one is SUPER expensive and hard to locate one of the particular products mentioned...its called OXYFRESH and OXYFRESH DENTAGEN...you will have to copy and paste the below link to your browser...its ingredients are specific to safety and effectiveness if any of you care to again do your OWN research on the ingredients and how this works...but good luck that will take some searching for you as a lot is mentioned about it for human use and dog use and for birds but of course ..ya need to dig around for it...and further promise you your brain will get quite confused the more you research this ..which will be a LOT.
and now for this..
hydrogen peroxide...seems to be the best solution as its easily accesable and cheap...here is what one site says about hydrogen peroxide
Vaporized hydrogen peroxide is one of the chemicals approved for decontamination of anthrax spores from contaminated buildings, such as occurred during the 2001 anthrax attacks in the U.S. It has also been shown to be effective in removing exotic animal viruses, such as avian influenza and Newcastle disease from equipment and surfaces.
regarding Newcastle disease you may want to read thishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_disease
scroll way down to find this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinfectant
now im not sure how all this info will affect anyones choices in what they do but i personally have always been a stickler about the things i recommend and NEVER want to mislead anyone...so this has all been to correct some things mentioned about me personally about using anticeptic hand wipes for wiping down our cages etc...
i have been using these now for several months and have seen NO problems ...however, just because we sometimes see NO problems doesnt mean there isnt any as ive seen researching here tonight well into the night about all of this.
so i thought ok back to vinegar till i THOROUGHLY researched THAT as well...and found what i did that it really does NOTHING as a disefectant or fighting bacteria that is relevant to our birds and their specific diseases, in spite of all the hype you hear about it being a good disenfectant...thats not regarding our birds and THEIR needs.
also as mentioned by a microbiologist how it actually can create issues instead of fixing them because of the acid involved which means guess what...
all those things we have been thinking about some cleaning agents that have acid in them do the same...any of those other products.
needless to say IM SHOCKED...and felt HORRIBLE about all this time using antibacterial hand wipes and telling folks this..and how ITS NOT SAFE AT ALL...NONE OF THEM ARE for our birds.
so now ill be getting hydrogen peroxide...and using a clean sterilized cloth that i will keep separate and sorry to say this again VACUUMED SEALED for each use when cleaning and wiping down the cage inside and out and all the things in it.
for the rest of you...its all your choice now what you do...and i hope this clears up a LOT about many things including how we have been basically duped into thinking ..vinegar...was a good alternative, or any of the other acid based solutions out there being sold as a disenfectant for birds or other things.
its now 4:57 am and i can finally feel some peace about all of this and maybe get some sleep
some of you may want to research on your own about OXYFRESH as its even mentioned its good for feather pickers...myself...im DONE researching because i soooo hate it and do waaaay to much of it in my opinion.
and like ive said and kksuns too ...just because some things are safe for humans...doesnt mean they are for our birds.
g'nite or i should say g'morning...will check back later about any comments made here