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Schoolgirl Punished for Speaking Native Language #421944 02/03/12 10:08 PM
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I wasn't sure where topm put this, but, as the events took place in a Catholic school, I thought that this would be ok smile

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Native News Network ~ February 3, 2012.

Seventh grader Miranda Washinawatok.... speaks .. Menominee and English. She also plays on her basketball team. However ... she was suspended for one basketball game because she spoke Menominee ... during class.

Miranda attends Sacred Heart Catholic Academy in Shawano, Wisconsin. The school body is over 60 percent American Indian. ....

The principal [said] that the assistant coach .. was told ... to bench Miranda for attitude problems.

The alleged 'attitude problem' turned out to be that Miranda ... and a fellow classmate were talking to each other when Miranda told her how to say "Hello" and "I love you" in Menominee ...

[Apparently], "The teacher .... literally slammed her hand down on the desk and said, "How do I know you are not saying something bad?"

http://www.nativenewsnetwork.com/index.html

What do you think?


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Re: Schoolgirl Punished for Speaking Native Language [Re: PDM] #421953 02/04/12 12:42 AM
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When I was in first grade I was learning both English and Ukrainian side by side. I started writing my name in Ukrainian on my school papers. The teacher gently asked me to please write it in English so when students passed out the papers they could read it. I agreed, and it didn't upset me, but the event has stuck in my mind all these years. So it did make an impact.

I wonder if there was some further depth to this story. Maybe the student had been one who acted out and she was giggling with her friend while doing it, and that upset the teacher?

As a related note, on my recent family cruise when my father was drinking a lot, he would go off with strangers, drink with them, then point at family members and say something to the strangers and they would all laugh uproariously. Maybe what he was saying was not hurtful. But it *felt* hurtful. So it might have been something like that.

When I am in a store and employees are gathered and talking in a foreign language, and looking at me and laughing, it bothers me. Maybe they're not talking about me. But it feels very uncomfortable. I wouldn't feel that way if they were talking in English (unless of course they were in fact being nasty about me smile )

So I see both sides here.

Good post, PDM.


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Re: Schoolgirl Punished for Speaking Native Language [Re: PDM] #421957 02/04/12 12:48 AM
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well you should of asked what was said you may not of course got the truth but you should speak out or if not then let it go...obvioulsy you havent because you remember it so well...

you dont let offensive behavior go without saying something ...and goodness we know that here smile or maybe its the immediate face to face confrontation thats a issue

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Dear Illusive -

I'm not sure which situation you're referring to. Are you talking about my father, or about the store clerks?


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im not talking about any one in specific ...when it happens something i think should be said or to let things like this go is sort of giving silent permission its ok...when it isnt ...if i made it sound like i was eluding to one or the other it wasnt that at all...sorry if you took it that way...good old text again... frown...its the same with mumblers or whispers ...i always confront my in home health care worker for mumbling she is great at it ...so i bring it out...thats not nice either to mumble ..

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I would disagree that it's innately impolite for a group of Mexican friends to talk with each other in Spanish while relaxing and waiting for the next assignment to come to them. If that is their language of choice, they should feel free to talk in that language when talking with each other. The United States does not have an official language.

So the fact that they are talking in Spanish to each other while hanging out together should not be inappropriate.

Now let's say they happen to look at me while talking together. That is not inappropriate either.

Now let's say they're laughing because they're sharing a funny story. That also is not inappropriate.

My comment was that there can then be a *perception* of a problem, because of a chain of situations, like what the teacher may have perceived.

I was getting at the idea that often the offense is in the mind of the perceiver, not in the mind of the speaker.


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