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Animal Treatment and the Bible #394360 01/27/10 02:54 AM
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In the Bible it says: ----------- Genesis i: 26, 27, 28. 26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him: male and female image, created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. ----------------- But then in Genesis 2 we are told: "Then the LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it" (verse 15) This means man should CARE for everything in his dominion, with tender love. Let's take this from the point of view of someone who believes in the Bible - so put aside temporarily any issues of the Bible being right or wrong. If we start with the assumption that the Bible is a guide book, isn't it telling people to care tenderly for animals and the Earth?


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Re: Animal Treatment and the Bible [Re: Lisa Shea] #394688 01/28/10 10:41 PM
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"If we start with the assumption" we won't get anywhere. If you study the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic text used to write the book, and not the plethora of later translations which seem only to cause further question and confusion, you will see two distinct messages. The old testament is an historical document designed as a starting point in our spiritual evolution. "In the beginning", neither us nor the animals fed on each other, there was perfect harmony. We were in charge of all life, that is, responsible for it's flow and order (our piece of heaven). Our inability to follow the simplest of instructions led to major changes in our spiritual and natural lives. The "new" testament was written to establish a spiritual lifestyle that was modified due to our natural history. The eating of meat is referred to "in moderation" as acceptable for those who choose to do so. Does this condone hunting just for killing, I think not. Killing of animals in biblical times was for food, shelter, clothing and tools, every part of the animal was used when necessary, not convenient. Even today many believe that killing for the sake of killing is wrong, but killing in self-defense or for survival is acceptable. For every choice given us, it seems, there are those quick to choose a side and condemn the others. Devout vegans and carnivores consistently bash one another for making choices that are supposed to be an inalienable right. We have, on the other hand, failed pitifully to replenish that which we have raped and abused from the earth. We cut down more than we plant, faster than it can grow. We make trophies out of endangered species without ever thinking about the possibility of breeding more. It seems we have become very destructive to our world and ourselves with the passing of time. Our efforts may be "too little; too late". The number of people I have met that are conscious of our actions and future are dwindling, most people have narrowed their area of concern to family and locale. I do not intend to be all "doom and gloom" I just wish we would wake up as a united people and take responsibility for our actions. Okay, I'll shut up.

Re: Animal Treatment and the Bible [Re: Barak] #394694 01/28/10 11:18 PM
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I probably wouldn't have gone into the detail Barak has, but I was also going to comment on the difference in the animals and plants before the "fall."

If the lion and the lamb could sit side by side, perhaps mankind could and did care "tenderly" for them.

However, even after the "fall," it is possible - as Barak says - to use the animals and plants without waste, greed, and lack of appreciation.

Native Americans (and other peoples who have lived "close" to their environment) gave thanks and respect for that which they used.


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Re: Animal Treatment and the Bible [Re: Barak] #394700 01/29/10 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted By: Barak
"If we start with the assumption" we won't get anywhere.

But that's what it says; that we will have dominion and that we should tend.

Man does have dominion, but doesn't always tend.
People should, though ~ regardless of how they feel about the Bible.
Originally Posted By: Barak
.... Even today many believe that killing for the sake of killing is wrong, but killing in self-defense or for survival is acceptable.

I'd agree with that.
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It seems we have become very destructive to our world and ourselves with the passing of time.

Yes, indeed.
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Our efforts may be "too little; too late".

I hope not.


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