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Re: Animals & Grief [Re: janimal] #388182 11/05/09 11:14 AM
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Really? I know The Wall is an interesting study in psychology, but what would you talk about in literature? I am interested in this! smile


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Re: Animals & Grief [Re: janimal] #388192 11/05/09 11:36 AM
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I heard that the kids who sang in the Brick in the Wall song got in trouble for singing in it, which seems a great shame!


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Re: Animals & Grief [Re: Lisa Shea] #388211 11/05/09 12:16 PM
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I think that it is clear from watching documentaries, or from actually being with animals, that they must have feelings.

And it is not surprising that those feelings are particularly recognisable in the ones closest to us ~ like the chimps.


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Re: Animals & Grief [Re: Lisa Shea] #388226 11/05/09 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: Lisa Shea
I heard that the kids who sang in the Brick in the Wall song got in trouble for singing in it, which seems a great shame!

What about the kids that sang "You can't always get what you want?"

Did they get in trouble too?


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Re: Animals & Grief [Re: mbas400] #388228 11/05/09 01:52 PM
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That's true, I imagine they got in trouble too for being a part of "subversive" rock and roll!


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Darn kids! Why can't they be like we were? Perfect in every way!


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Re: Animals & Grief [Re: mbas400] #388236 11/05/09 02:55 PM
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LOL right, I think every generation feels they were great as kids but that the current batch of kids is out of control smile


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Re: Animals & Grief [Re: Lisa Shea] #388251 11/05/09 03:43 PM
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You know those darn Beatles were the end of civilization! wink

Re: Animals & Grief [Re: jilly] #388260 11/05/09 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: jilly
Really? I know The Wall is an interesting study in psychology, but what would you talk about in literature? I am interested in this! smile


i'd have to do some digging, but roger waters' lyrics deserve study in their own right. there is no dark corner of the human psyche he doesn't cover, and he does so beautifully eloquently. the later floyd stuff, with lyrics by gilmore is superb too, but in a much more benevolent way.

i find a lot of poetry pretentious, and i think its a shame that the poetry world does not take popular music lyrics seriously, because in my opinion thats where you'll find some of the best writing of the 20th century.

the wall really does cover all the bases - a father who died in the war, a suffocatingly protective mother, the [censored] wife from hell, merciless fans, drug use, paranoia, self destructive tendencies, madness, self persecution, a judgemental world, and of course walls. if freud bores you, listen to this album.

i've played songs from this album at sessions for years, most notably comfortably numb and hey you. but for some reason whenever this album comes up, these lines spring to mind:

come into the bedroom,
in the suitcase on the left
you'll find my favourite axe
don't look so frightened
this is just a passing phase,
why are you running away?....

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It rather makes you think of Columbine, and other teens that have gone off after being bullied.

Makes you wonder if Waters knew what was coming?

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