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Re: does anyone feed pellets? [Re: ] #358164 03/27/09 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: *helwa
you can purchase at the harrisons website and on there they have locations for every state.

http://www.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/

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http://www.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/buy/index.html


Call ahead though and be sure they carry what you want! I was very excited when I found that my sister's vet carries Harrison's. Finally I didn't have to order on line and pay shipping! I see my sister about once a month so with some pre planning, I could be covered! Guess what? We stopped by there yesterday, they don't carry the super fine pellets and they don't carry the bird bread mix!!!

Oh well, she directed us to an Avian Rehab Center about 1/2 hr. from here where they do carry at least the bird bread-she buys that there but since she has a bigger bird, she has never looked for the super fine pellets.

Originally Posted By: Ant
I heard that parakeets should receive no more than 25% of protein per day. I'll try to find the link where I read that.



This is not the web site I found it from, but I found another which says the same thing.

http://s85.photobucket.com/albums/k42/No...=Picture1-2.png

http://www.wwvhcares.com/pdf/Avian_Nutrition.pdf


Thanks for that info Ant!! So if 25 grams is the max they should have, and the pellets provide 14 grams protein, then I should weigh out 1 ounce (the amount that has 14 grams in it) and see just how much that is. I appreciate that info as I have never been able to find it!!

I feel like I am on the right track here. I feed pellets, some fresh veggies and some seeds daily. I'm good with that, my vet is good with that, and my birds are good with that (they talk to me and tell me so! LOL wink )

Re: does anyone feed pellets? [Re: ] #358165 03/27/09 02:51 PM
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C mom,I'm glad you feel like you are on the right track smile I'm still kind of confused! lol I read that link that Ant gave as no greater than 25 PERCENT protein not 25 grams protein. I must be missing something here. How do you figure that out?




Re: does anyone feed pellets? [Re: kksuns] #358172 03/27/09 03:30 PM
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Oh, I hope I didn't confuse anyone, the link said no more than 25% percent, I'm not sure how you would figure out grams though. confused

If you look on the back of the label on the pellets or seeds, it will tell you the protein content. I've never seen them measure protein by grams, I guess percentages makes it easier. confused I think Harrison's is 18%, Roudybush is about 12%, Seeds are about 14% generally, Nutriberries is about 12%.

I think you have to add the percentages up that are given to them in a day. The problem is though, it doesn't have a serving size on the back of the label, maybe a couple table spoons is one serving for parakeets, I'm guessing?

I would guess since seeds and pellets are both high in protein, you would have to alternate the two everyday just to be on the safe side so they're not getting too much protein. And veggies you don't have to worry about, I'm pretty sure vegetables don't contain any protein in them. I think they add waaay too much protein in these foods, it's so easy to give them too much.

Re: does anyone feed pellets? [Re: ] #358192 03/27/09 04:54 PM
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I'm not home where I can look at my stuff (on vacation) I was going from memory (not such a good thing for me LOL) I was thinking the bag of Harrisons said 14 grams protein, I could very well be mistaken.

Re: does anyone feed pellets? [Re: baby blue] #358193 03/27/09 04:59 PM
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This is from the back of the bag (off of the website-link to follow) ADULT LIFETIME SUPER FINE A Certified Organic Maintenance Level Nutrient Formula for Small Parrots FOR USE IN BIRDS • after completing a dietary program of High Potency Formula for a period of at least 6 months. • as a year round maintenance formula that meets the nutritional requirements for healthy, non-breeding birds including canaries, budgies (parakeets), cockatiels, finches and other small to medium parrots. Feeding Directions: • feed fresh food daily. • to help reduce waste, feed as distinct meals. • birds may eat all they want, but use the table below as a guideline.. Supplementation It is not recommended to supplement with vitamins or other bird or animal food products. Supplementation should be limited to no more than 10% of the overall diet. Offer certified organic vegetables and fruits in small quantities; select dark yellow meaty or dark green leafy items such as sweet potatoes, carrots, pumpkin, winter squash, broccoli, parsley, spinach, mango or papaya. [For birds with suspected iron-storage disease: Avoid citrus fruits, tomatoes, kiwi, strawberries and other foods containing vitamin C. Avoid grapes, currants, raisins, liver, red meat, egg yolk or dark green vegetables such as spinach, which may contain high levels of iron.] Ingredients: *Ground Yellow Corn, *Ground Hulless Barley, *Ground Hulled Millet, *Ground Soybeans, *Ground Shelled Peanuts, *Ground Shelled Sunflower Seeds, *Ground Lentils, *Ground Rice, *Ground Green Peas, *Ground Alfalfa, *Ground Toasted Oat Groats, Chia Seed, Calcium Carbonate, Montmorillonite Clay, Ground Dried Sea Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Sea Salt, Spirulina, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, d-Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite. *CERTIFIED ORGANIC INGREDIENT Guaranteed Analysis: Crude protein (min.) 14%, crude fat (min.) 6%, crude fiber (max.) 4.5%, moisture (max.) 10% From: http://www.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/products/alsf.html I do agree that a budgie should have some seed and do give my boys some seed, however, it is not that much. Mainly seed is used as a training (bribing) tool and a special treat.

Re: does anyone feed pellets? [Re: pollyannie] #358208 03/27/09 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: pollyannie
... I finally used a regular old handcrank nut grinder to crush the fine pellets. It leaves some chunks and some powdered. This is the only way I have gotten them to eat it. They love it now.
LOL -- some chunks and some powder is what my cheap coffee grinder makes! Ya get what ya pay for, eh? In this case, it worked out well for Pudgie!

This whole thread is very informative and interesting, in my opinion.

Re: does anyone feed pellets? [Re: ] #358318 03/28/09 04:50 AM
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I find if I get the super fine, I don't have to grind them at all but the last time I accidentally ordered the regular fine and that I had to grind up some. The real fine powder I stir into baby food, they gobble it up like it's going out of style!!

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