No problem. I have one really think wood perch that I got at Petsmart for about $7 and they really like to sit on it. I also have a perch with three different branches sticking out of it and one of them is rally skinny and they like sitting on that one as well. I have 4 rope perches, 2 are Large and 2 are Extra Large. The Extra Large ones are wound up in a circle ar the pet store while the Large just have one curve in them, hanging in the pet store.