And Trogdor, Doc IS being a very unusually brilliant bird. XPR15SR even admits to being very lucky having Doc make it easy. Normally, it's more like Sunshine (cute name), hesitant and cautious and leary. So don't compare Sunshine to any other bird. He will be perfect. Chippy is perfect for me and it took him a lot longer than 8 days. But I do need to see a PICTURE!